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Post 1 \| New	Posted August 19th, 2003. Updated August 20th, 2003 (Cause NONEONE REPLYS)
Inky is a pie Joined: May '03 Posts: 1,003	I'm not to sure if this is were to post this exactly, but I need help with a new object I would like to add into Vice City. It will be a bunker placed hopefully around near those guys that were the blue and are near downtown (sorry, but I can't remember the name). Here are some screenshots: Here Heres what I need: 1. I need to know how to add this into 'oceandrv' near the bridge. The thing is, I want this to be half underground if possible. 2. Could someone show me how to make alphas? I need to put a 'H' on the roof for the chopper landing and this one is just a temp roof. 3. To anyone who helps, I will put your names in possibly in an easter egg. Same with another one.... I've also got to finish up the outside too. ------------------ "you know, the only satisfaction that i get dealing with people like that, is imagining them having sex"

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Posted August 19th, 2003. Updated August 20th, 2003 (Cause NONEONE REPLYS)

Inky
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I'm not to sure if this is were to post this exactly, but I need help with a new object I would like to add into Vice City. It will be a bunker placed hopefully around near those guys that were the blue and are near downtown (sorry, but I can't remember the name).

Here are some screenshots: Here

Heres what I need:

1. I need to know how to add this into 'oceandrv' near the bridge. The thing is, I want this to be half underground if possible.

2. Could someone show me how to make alphas? I need to put a 'H' on the roof for the chopper landing and this one is just a temp roof.

3. To anyone who helps, I will put your names in possibly in an easter egg. Same with another one....

I've also got to finish up the outside too.

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"you know, the only satisfaction that i get dealing with people like that, is imagining them having sex"

Post 2 \| New	Posted August 21st, 2003
Fragdieb2 Avatar is missing! Joined: Mar '03 Posts: 1,784	I don't now much about mapping or such stuff, but I can try to help you with alphas. This is a texture example: This is the corresponding alpha map: An alpha map is basically a grayscale picture which controls the transparence of the picture. White zones in the alpha map appear as solid, black ones are completely transparent, this means they're invisible. Gray areas cause a glass-like effect, or, if the polygons with the alpha mapped texture are directly over other textured polygons, a mixing-of-colors effect. (I used this one for the red-to-yellow colorscheme on my truck, btw). The alpha map mut be included in the *.tga texture file for zmodeler. This can be done in photoshop (should be possible in any better picture editing software), I just can't really explain what to do 'cause I use the german version. For your H-problem: I suggest drawing an alpha map with a white "H" on black background, and use this on a dirty white grayish texture. ------------------ -temporary placeholder for a new cool signature-

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Posted August 21st, 2003

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I don't now much about mapping or such stuff, but I can try to help you with alphas.

This is a texture example:

http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~jaktonn/pics/_rlicht1.jpg

This is the corresponding alpha map:

http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~jaktonn/pics/_rlicht_alpha.jpg

An alpha map is basically a grayscale picture which controls the transparence of the picture. White zones in the alpha map appear as solid, black ones are completely transparent, this means they're invisible. Gray areas cause a glass-like effect, or, if the polygons with the alpha mapped texture are directly over other textured polygons, a mixing-of-colors effect. (I used this one for the red-to-yellow colorscheme on my truck, btw).

The alpha map mut be included in the *.tga texture file for zmodeler. This can be done in photoshop (should be possible in any better picture editing software), I just can't really explain what to do 'cause I use the german version.

For your H-problem: I suggest drawing an alpha map with a white "H" on black background, and use this on a dirty white grayish texture.

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Post 3 \| New	Posted August 21st, 2003
Inky is a pie Joined: May '03 Posts: 1,003	Wow thank you so much. I will get on that when I am able to get a good copy of 3D Studio. :D ------------------ "you know, the only satisfaction that i get dealing with people like that, is imagining them having sex"

Post 4 \| New	Posted August 21st, 2003
Inky is a pie Joined: May '03 Posts: 1,003	Well I managed todo this, it might now be the finall image: Or here if you can't see this: Click Here I'm just wondering if this is right so far? ------------------ "you know, the only satisfaction that i get dealing with people like that, is imagining them having sex"

Post 5 \| New	Posted August 22nd, 2003. Updated August 22nd, 2003
Fragdieb2 Avatar is missing! Joined: Mar '03 Posts: 1,784	yes, this looks quite usable..now try to get it onto the roof. -Nobody else here who knows anything helpful?- ------------------ -temporary placeholder for a new cool signature-

Post 6 \| New	Posted August 22nd, 2003
Inky is a pie Joined: May '03 Posts: 1,003	Okay, how do I make this into a *.tga? If you've already answerd this and I didn't read it in your first post, then sorry. ------------------ "you know, the only satisfaction that i get dealing with people like that, is imagining them having sex"

Post 7 \| New	Posted August 22nd, 2003
Fragdieb2 Avatar is missing! Joined: Mar '03 Posts: 1,784	difficult to explain, because I use the german version of photoshop, but I'll have a try. First, create a new RGB Image and insert the yellow "H" there. Then, you have to add an alpha channel to this file. In my Photoshop version, there is a small window where you can choose the color channel (RGB, or R or G or B). There should be a button "Add a new channel" somewhere in this window. Click on it, and a new channel called "Alpha1" should be added in your file. Then click on "Alpha1" to view this channel, it should be completely black. Insert the white alpha "H" into this channel, then save this image as a *.tga Hope this helps you a bit further. ------------------ -temporary placeholder for a new cool signature-

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Posted August 22nd, 2003

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difficult to explain, because I use the german version of photoshop, but I'll have a try.

First, create a new RGB Image and insert the yellow "H" there. Then, you have to add an alpha channel to this file. In my Photoshop version, there is a small window where you can choose the color channel (RGB, or R or G or B). There should be a button "Add a new channel" somewhere in this window. Click on it, and a new channel called "Alpha1" should be added in your file. Then click on "Alpha1" to view this channel, it should be completely black. Insert the white alpha "H" into this channel, then save this image as a *.tga
Hope this helps you a bit further.

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Post 8 \| New	Posted August 22nd, 2003
Inky is a pie Joined: May '03 Posts: 1,003	Well so far is this right?: Click Here. If it is, do I just put the white H on the black one, merge them all to a single image and save it as a *tga? ------------------ "you know, the only satisfaction that i get dealing with people like that, is imagining them having sex"

Post 9 \| New	Posted August 22nd, 2003
Fragdieb2 Avatar is missing! Joined: Mar '03 Posts: 1,784	Try and let me see the file... ------------------ -temporary placeholder for a new cool signature-

Post 10 \| New	Posted August 22nd, 2003. Updated August 22nd, 2003
Inky is a pie Joined: May '03 Posts: 1,003	Fragdieb2 On 22/08/2003 @ 14:01:48 wrote: Try and let me see the file... Click-Ish EDIT: Wait nm, here's the real link: It says song, but it ain't ------------------ "you know, the only satisfaction that i get dealing with people like that, is imagining them having sex"

Post 11 \| New	Posted August 22nd, 2003. Updated August 22nd, 2003
Fragdieb2 Avatar is missing! Joined: Mar '03 Posts: 1,784	hmm...no...either my photoshop doesn't show it right, or it's rellay wrong...maybe you should open a *.tga file with alpha channel and have a look how it's done there... EDIT: I made this one for you...have a look at it... ------------------ -temporary placeholder for a new cool signature-

Post 12 \| New	Posted August 22nd, 2003
Inky is a pie Joined: May '03 Posts: 1,003	Okay well first I opend both files. The white and yellow. Then I went to Arimatic or something. It had 2 dropdown windows with each image in either one. I had 'ADD' clicked in and 'All Channels' click in. Then I just went ok and a white 'H' came up. But if you download the link above, agian tell me if I did it right or if I have to do it agian. It should just be a white image ------------------ "you know, the only satisfaction that i get dealing with people like that, is imagining them having sex"

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Posted August 22nd, 2003

Inky
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Okay well first I opend both files. The white and yellow. Then I went to Arimatic or something. It had 2 dropdown windows with each image in either one. I had 'ADD' clicked in and 'All Channels' click in. Then I just went ok and a white 'H' came up. But if you download the link above, agian tell me if I did it right or if I have to do it agian. It should just be a white image

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Post 13 \| New	Posted August 22nd, 2003. Updated August 22nd, 2003
Fragdieb2 Avatar is missing! Joined: Mar '03 Posts: 1,784	download mine and have a look at it. the problem with your file is: you seem to have somehow converted the file from RGB color mode to index (???) color mode...arrggg...maybe I try posting screenshots thats probably easier to understand. plz wait some minutes! Okay, I'm finished. 1. Open your *.bmp with the yellow "H". 2. Add a new color channel to the image, it will be called "alpha1" automatically 3. Now open the other file with the white "H". Select it and copy it. then, watch the yellow H file again, IMPORTANT: make sure you view only the alpha channel of the image, not the RGB channels. Now you can paste the white H into the alpha channel. 4. merge all layers to background, if necessary, and save as 32 bit tga file. ------------------ -temporary placeholder for a new cool signature-

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Posted August 22nd, 2003. Updated August 22nd, 2003

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download mine and have a look at it.
the problem with your file is: you seem to have somehow converted the file from RGB color mode to index (???) color mode...arrggg...maybe I try posting screenshots thats probably easier to understand.

plz wait some minutes!

Okay, I'm finished.

1. Open your *.bmp with the yellow "H".

http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~jaktonn/pics/alpha_tut1.jpg

2. Add a new color channel to the image, it will be called "alpha1" automatically

http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~jaktonn/pics/alpha_tut2.jpg

3. Now open the other file with the white "H". Select it and copy it.
then, watch the yellow H file again, IMPORTANT: make sure you view only the alpha channel of the image, not the RGB channels. Now you can paste the white H into the alpha channel.

http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~jaktonn/pics/alpha_tut3.jpg

4. merge all layers to background, if necessary, and save as 32 bit tga file.

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Post 14 \| New	Posted August 22nd, 2003
Inky is a pie Joined: May '03 Posts: 1,003	Well I'm using PSP8 not Adobe. I used the help function and couldn't find anything. Damn, this is bugging me but if it's okay with you could I use that alpha? I will try my hardest to learn howto do this ------------------ "you know, the only satisfaction that i get dealing with people like that, is imagining them having sex"

Post 15 \| New	Posted August 22nd, 2003. Updated August 22nd, 2003 (damn miztakez!)
Fragdieb2 Avatar is missing! Joined: Mar '03 Posts: 1,784	you may use it, thanks for asking... It shouldn't be that hard to do, but I don't know anything about PSP..maybe someone else around here knows. ------------------ -temporary placeholder for a new cool signature-

Post 16 \| New	Posted August 22nd, 2003
Inky is a pie Joined: May '03 Posts: 1,003	Here's actually a video I made. If you watch it and have any ideas of what I should do, please, do tell. Click Here ------------------ "you know, the only satisfaction that i get dealing with people like that, is imagining them having sex"

Post 17 \| New	Posted August 22nd, 2003
RunYaSneakers does this thing work? Joined: May '03 Posts: 401	Wierd seeing a whole interface in German. ------------------

Post 18 \| New	Posted August 23rd, 2003
Inky is a pie Joined: May '03 Posts: 1,003	Yes it is... ------------------ "you know, the only satisfaction that i get dealing with people like that, is imagining them having sex"

Post 19 \| New	Posted September 1st, 2003
Inky is a pie Joined: May '03 Posts: 1,003	Whoo Hoo! The very first testing of the Bunker was today just a min. or so ago. It looks...meh, so I might just remake it, I have changes anyway. Even with the army after you, you're totaly safe and I feel this is really fun: ------------------ "you know, the only satisfaction that i get dealing with people like that, is imagining them having sex"

Post 20 \| New	Posted September 1st, 2003. Updated September 1st, 2003
maverickllama does not exist :. Joined: Jun '03 Posts: 744	In Interstate '82, there is a level with lots of bunkers like that. Just pull up exactly next to the door, and press X to get out and your little guy does a barrel roll out of the car, and is in the buker with the car conveniently protectiing the only way out! Problem is, all you have is a handgun and there is no window. Also, the machine gun fire from the cars outside magically pierces through the wall in some places, so you have to be lucky and quick with the 7 and 9 keys (side roll) to stay alive. Great fun. You can buy I82 now for about $6.00 or less. It's not fully XP compatible, though. Oh and Inky, could we have an outside view? And how do you get in? ------------------ Azz wrote: Oh.. yeah, guns bad, ice cream good, the end.

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Posted September 1st, 2003. Updated September 1st, 2003

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In Interstate '82, there is a level with lots of bunkers like that. Just pull up exactly next to the door, and press X to get out and your little guy does a barrel roll out of the car, and is in the buker with the car conveniently protectiing the only way out! Problem is, all you have is a handgun and there is no window. Also, the machine gun fire from the cars outside magically pierces through the wall in some places, so you have to be lucky and quick with the 7 and 9 keys (side roll) to stay alive. Great fun. You can buy I82 now for about $6.00 or less. It's not fully XP compatible, though.

Oh and Inky, could we have an outside view? And how do you get in?

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Azz wrote:

Oh.. yeah, guns bad, ice cream good, the end.

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