| Post 1 | New | Posted March 4th, 2005 |
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| Pyro GTA2 Scripter & Mapper
| Well, I've been completely distracted as of late with college work and only now have I started hearing people wanting to see my GTA2 scripting information to be returned due to the freeware release of GTA2. Well now I have most of the logistical crap out of the way and I want to sort out my GTA2 Scripting page once and for all and release it to the masses with an upated, and more formatted page. Just have to worry about someone hosting it for me  Of course, I must apologise to Cerbera for his PM's and me not being around, but hopefully I have things a little bit more sorted now. I was directed to a link on the GTA Forums website and found a link on there with an old version of my help, and realised a few important things were missing. This weekend I will sit down in front of my PC and edit the blasted thing, but I don't know if Cerb wants it in just text format with no images etc or allow me to fiddle around with my own variation and style (I'd prefer my own style - but nowhere to host at this moment in time) and hen host it. As some veterans of my page will know, it wasn't exactly user friendly in navigation, but I aim to change that to make it resemble a Help File where you can click on something like 'Characters' and it will have a drop down text with the categories (just look at something like Windows XP help file). Of course, if anyone else needs anything added to it, I'll add it in, but my file is pretty much inclusive of most things for scrpting. I may add something like how to get a city working, from start to finish, but probably at another time, just need to get this sorted first .So for all other people no I'm not dead, I'm actually alive, and hopefully making a slow and painful return Roll on GTA2 scripting!  ------------------  Quote: "Side effects may include: dry mouth, nausea, vomiting, water retention, painful rectal itch, hallucination, dementia, psychosis, coma, death, and halitosis. Magic is not for everyone. Consult your doctor before use." Quote: "Sharper than one of Oscar Wilde's witticisms rolled up, dunked in lemon juice and stabbed in someones eye..." |
| Post 2 | New | Posted March 4th, 2005 |
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| Gokhan Would you like to know more? 
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| Post 3 | New | Posted March 4th, 2005 |
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| Pyro GTA2 Scripter & Mapper
| Yes, I'll be happy to add it in, just send the code and I'll add your name to it Just looking for a script to make text expand and collapse is quite annoying at the best of times... or I may just have to settle for something else If anyone else has code they'd like to see, please feel free to post it and I'll add it asap ------------------ Quote: "Side effects may include: dry mouth, nausea, vomiting, water retention, painful rectal itch, hallucination, dementia, psychosis, coma, death, and halitosis. Magic is not for everyone. Consult your doctor before use." Quote: "Sharper than one of Oscar Wilde's witticisms rolled up, dunked in lemon juice and stabbed in someones eye..." |
| Post 4 | New | Posted March 4th, 2005. Updated March 5th, 2005 | ||
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| Cerbera Ben 'Cerbera' Millard 
| Hooray! First off, make your pages as non-dynamic as you possibly can. After all, the navigational swooshy bits you put in the last one are exactly what made it such a pain to use. The beauty of hypertext is that hyperlinks give you all the dynamic navigation you want in a way which has not changed much for decades and will probably remain backward compliant for centuries. Replacing the current page with a new page is what links do and that is all the user needs. Fragment linking (where you use <a id="name_starts_with_letter"></a> and reference it by using <a href="#name_starts_with_letter">hotlink</a>) alows jumping to individual parts of the document but you should keep each page fairly short. Include images, tables and any fragment links you want. I will re-style your pages to the same format as my other texts (good example) and add the pages to the GTA2 section of my Texts Index, with you credited as the original author. You might like to take a look around S3ktor's site because that demonstrates the simple format. Black backgrounds are a disaster in text-rich environments, though. It was great when it had a white background, imho. ------------------
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| Post 5 | New | Posted March 4th, 2005 |
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| Elxxy <3 you 
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| Post 6 | New | Posted March 5th, 2005 |
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| Pyro GTA2 Scripter & Mapper
| I was actually just going to keep it as the single html file with all the code in it. I am currently re-organising the entire page from scratch as the last one the topics were all over the place. For now, I just have a category type and then some links, e.g. Code: Cars - Creating | Remaps etc... The links will then jump to the category in hand As for the topics, I've added a few little extras like the difficulty and who its by (generally by me, but Gokhan requested to add his own and for anyone else), and generally re-worded some topics. And yes Cerb, I have just left it as a white background and generally going for the minimalist effect, afterall, I'm just showing help stuff  It will be another day or so before it's fully finished and tested for any broken links etc (alot of anchors to use). ------------------ Quote: "Side effects may include: dry mouth, nausea, vomiting, water retention, painful rectal itch, hallucination, dementia, psychosis, coma, death, and halitosis. Magic is not for everyone. Consult your doctor before use." Quote: "Sharper than one of Oscar Wilde's witticisms rolled up, dunked in lemon juice and stabbed in someones eye..." |
| Post 7 | New | Posted March 5th, 2005 | ||
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| Cerbera Ben 'Cerbera' Millard
| Elxxy wrote: Quick (just slightly) off-topic question for you, Cerb. I've seen places use <a id="blah"> and <a name="blah">. I remember reading that one of them was deprecated, but use both to work on all browsers, or something. Which one should everyone be using? The id attribute is the correct one because they have to have unique names and fragments within an HTML document all need to be unique, too. I didn't think that name had actually been deprecated for this purpose but I guess it might have been.Pyro, if you lump it all into one file do you mind if I split it up when it goes on my site? How much editorial control are you willing to give me over re-wording stuff, changing layout and so on? ------------------
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| Post 8 | New | Posted March 5th, 2005 |
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| Pyro GTA2 Scripter & Mapper
| Well, it might just be as easy keeping it on one page... but I don't mind if it's split up, so long as they're kept in categories. Now, I don't know if you just want a pure text help, or want the pictures as well. I'd rather keep the pictures on there... Just got to edit it first ------------------ Quote: "Side effects may include: dry mouth, nausea, vomiting, water retention, painful rectal itch, hallucination, dementia, psychosis, coma, death, and halitosis. Magic is not for everyone. Consult your doctor before use." Quote: "Sharper than one of Oscar Wilde's witticisms rolled up, dunked in lemon juice and stabbed in someones eye..." |
| Post 9 | New | Posted March 5th, 2005 | ||
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| Cerbera Ben 'Cerbera' Millard
| Pyro wrote: Well, it might just be as easy keeping it on one page... but I don't mind if it's split up, so long as they're kept in categories. Cerbera wrote:Now, I don't know if you just want a pure text help, or want the pictures as well. I'd rather keep the pictures on there... Just got to edit it first Include images, tables and any fragment links you want. I will re-style your pages to the same format as my other texts (good example) and add the pages to the GTA2 section of my Texts Index, with you credited as the original author. Hope that answers your question. ------------------
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| Post 10 | New | Posted March 6th, 2005 |
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| Pyro GTA2 Scripter & Mapper
| OK Cerb, finished editing the file and I've e-mailed it to you ------------------ Quote: "Side effects may include: dry mouth, nausea, vomiting, water retention, painful rectal itch, hallucination, dementia, psychosis, coma, death, and halitosis. Magic is not for everyone. Consult your doctor before use." Quote: "Sharper than one of Oscar Wilde's witticisms rolled up, dunked in lemon juice and stabbed in someones eye..." |
| Post 11 | New | Posted March 7th, 2005 | ||
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| Cerbera Ben 'Cerbera' Millard
| Pyro wrote: OK Cerb, finished editing the file and I've e-mailed it to you E-mail received. I will work on it as much as possible but it will still probably take a month or two.------------------
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| Post 12 | New | Posted March 8th, 2005 |
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| illspirit lycanthroplasty 
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| Post 13 | New | Posted March 8th, 2005 |
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| Pyro GTA2 Scripter & Mapper
| Thanks for the offer Ill, but I think Cerb mentioned he will keep the pictures on the pages. All of the pictures I have are generally very small in size (no more than about 3kb a file I'm guessing), so hopefully not cause too much hassle for bandwidth, so long as a million people don't look at it in a month If I have to update, I'll more than likely send an html or word file with the documentation as well as any pictures needed, and I'll let Cerb add it to the overall documentation. I should even add things like cranes, crushers, as I'm sure these will all be needed at some stage Perhaps I could get recognition from Rockstar even for my GTA2 scripting :P, but that's what we call 'dreaming' If anyone has anything to add, feel free to e-mail! I have Gokhans script for night and day, I'll read it through, test it and then put it into documentation and then send to Cerb. Oh, and btw Cerb, changing the pictures to PNG files might not be the best idea as it saves you messing around with colours and everything, plus you'll keep the small file size ------------------ Quote: "Side effects may include: dry mouth, nausea, vomiting, water retention, painful rectal itch, hallucination, dementia, psychosis, coma, death, and halitosis. Magic is not for everyone. Consult your doctor before use." Quote: "Sharper than one of Oscar Wilde's witticisms rolled up, dunked in lemon juice and stabbed in someones eye..." |
| Post 14 | New | Posted March 8th, 2005 | ||
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| Cerbera Ben 'Cerbera' Millard
| Portable Network Graphics were developed by W3C and as such are totally awesome. Very sophisticated, lossless compression algorithms mean that they are smaller than JPG and only start getting larger than GIF images when you get down to a GIF with a filesize around 400 bytes, such as my avatar and site button. PSP3 (the one I have) has a batch conversion utility, so I could set it to just run through all the images in one sweep. I intend to convert all my site graphics to basic PNG format somewhen. If people want to add to it, then the best is is certainly for them to e-mail it to you so you can check it over and refine it with them before sending it to me. I won't be doing script testing, I'll just be editing, formatting and hosting. ------------------
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