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Post 1 \| New	Posted April 23rd, 2003
Azz the barbarian. grrr Joined: Feb '03 Posts: 1,785 Type: Administrator	Just reading TheReg, as you do, and noticed an article about Washington State banning the sales of violent games to minors. Nothing new there particularly, since guidelines regarding underage gamers have been in place for a while now. Couple things worth noting are that Vice City was mentioned by name, obviously our beloved series has become the epitomy of "evil" games. Yay us. Secondly the ban will be supported by a $500 fine, levied on games retail employees who make the sale. You can read the full article here ------------------ azz.gouranga.com est. 1998 (I am oldskoolier than joo)

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Posted April 23rd, 2003

Azz
the barbarian. grrr

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Just reading TheReg, as you do, and noticed an article about Washington State banning the sales of violent games to minors. Nothing new there particularly, since guidelines regarding underage gamers have been in place for a while now.

Couple things worth noting are that Vice City was mentioned by name, obviously our beloved series has become the epitomy of "evil" games. Yay us.

Secondly the ban will be supported by a $500 fine, levied on games retail employees who make the sale.

You can read the full article here

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Posted April 23rd, 2003

Cerbera
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About bloody time too!

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Post 3 \| New	Posted April 23rd, 2003
scully designated drinker Joined: Feb '03 Posts: -57	Sounds like they are actually targeting GTA. I guess the state of Washington is afraid that people will take the game so seriously, that they'll actually commit crimes. I haven't heard of any cases were somebody shot a real cop, and said they did it because they saw it done in a game. Just because you can kill prostitutes in GTA, doesn't mean that we'll beat women. * walks over to slap girlfriend* What was I talking about again? ------------------ Gone to the roof

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Posted April 23rd, 2003

scully
designated drinker

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Sounds like they are actually targeting GTA. I guess the state of Washington is afraid that people will take the game so seriously, that they'll actually commit crimes. I haven't heard of any cases were somebody shot a real cop, and said they did it because they saw it done in a game. Just because you can kill prostitutes in GTA, doesn't mean that we'll beat women.
* walks over to slap girlfriend*
What was I talking about again?

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Post 4 \| New	Posted April 23rd, 2003
Deleted Member	You know whats the problem those fuckup american laws take my country im free to smoke drink when i want and the fuckking cops can do me shit. Those stupid americans take it way to real. just take your life with a lil fun and youl be al right

Post 5 \| New	Posted April 23rd, 2003
Toumai Wal-Mart Greeter Joined: Feb '03 Posts: 932	And just what is wour definition of "fun"? How would a pedophile define "fun"? About time the law is getting around America, hell when I was a kid I grew up with my parents and "dinky" cars, not being babysat by the TV and playing video games. Kids these days are messed up enough. ------------------ link's dead baby, link's dead

Post 6 \| New	Posted April 23rd, 2003
Spikedskull A fan of The Angry Beavers Joined: Apr '03 Posts: 164	That law is really gay. I mean big deal if someone sales an 'M' rated game to minor. What's so bad about that? I just don't see the point of the law except to piss young people off. :#@

Post 7 \| New	Posted April 24th, 2003
Faze Introverted Destruction Joined: Feb '03 Posts: 1,313	well, its a good thing i live in good ol' canada, where almost everyone gets treated right! :D ------------------ Your fear... your master... your kitty.

Post 8 \| New	Posted April 24th, 2003
Deleted Member	a a pedophile is mostly an adult not a kid So whats the point toumai

Post 9 \| New	Posted April 25th, 2003. Updated April 25th, 2003 (nill)
Fordy Grrrrr Joined: Feb '03 Posts: 1,049	thadonkey On 23/04/2003 @ 12:06:03 wrote: take my country im free to smoke drink when i want hehe have fun..... When i read this i thort of the shootings in washington and thought that they must of had a high influence on the situation. Uusally its australia giving out gta bans left right and centre, meh, well see... ------------------

Post 10 \| New	Posted April 25th, 2003
Tom Say hell to my lil frien' Joined: Apr '03 Posts: 57	Nothing beyond the regular just chucking a fine on it from wer im standing, or sitting :p

Post 11 \| New	Posted April 25th, 2003
RyanL Master of Helicopters Joined: Feb '03 Posts: 1,016	The thing about America is they try to keep people safe. Good thing that's not a law in Ohio though...:D ------------------ [VC Helicopter Guide]

Post 12 \| New	Posted April 30th, 2003
Russian Enforcer Computer Scientist Joined: Apr '03 Posts: 18	Anyone who goes around shooting cops and commiting crimes just cuz "I saw it in a video game" is a certified retard. Games like this are fantastic because you can do things you would never do in your real life and have a lot of fun doing it. Thats what makes games like this so appealing. Most people get a good laugh from this game not a criminal plot. And if anything i think it is a good way to get crime and crap out of your system so you wont do it in reality (not that any of us reading this has to vent their crime in a video game) Over all, id say this new law isnt so bad. If the law pisses off 1000 kids and keeps 1 mentaly challenged nut from grabbing his AK-47 and shooting up an albertsons id say its worth it. No offense intended if anyone was offended. ------------------ AK-47: 7.62x39mm AK-74: 5.45x39mm Skorpion: 7.62x12mm Uzi: 9x19mm M-16 A2: 5.56x45mm HK G3A3: 7.62x51mm HK MP5A4: 9x19mm

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Posted April 30th, 2003

Russian Enforcer
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Anyone who goes around shooting cops and commiting crimes just cuz "I saw it in a video game" is a certified retard.

Games like this are fantastic because you can do things you would never do in your real life and have a lot of fun doing it. Thats what makes games like this so appealing.

Most people get a good laugh from this game not a criminal plot. And if anything i think it is a good way to get crime and crap out of your system so you wont do it in reality (not that any of us reading this has to vent their crime in a video game)

Over all, id say this new law isnt so bad. If the law pisses off 1000 kids and keeps 1 mentaly challenged nut from grabbing his AK-47 and shooting up an albertsons id say its worth it.

No offense intended if anyone was offended.

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AK-74: 5.45x39mm
Skorpion: 7.62x12mm
Uzi: 9x19mm
M-16 A2: 5.56x45mm
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HK MP5A4: 9x19mm

Post 13 \| New	Posted June 19th, 2003
Soylent Radio Nudist Joined: Jun '03 Posts: 18	well, to piss off all minors I guess my opinion must be heard, you want to pass your opinion to me, do it through your parents, if ya can't convince them, you certainly won't convice me. And as far as the government is concerned, untill your 18 and as long as your not commiting crimes, you don't have a name, your not even a real human, your just a number, your just listed as minor(s) in household on the census. ------------------ If this is the land of the free, lets start with our pants.

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Posted June 19th, 2003

Soylent
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well, to piss off all minors I guess my opinion must be heard, you want to pass your opinion to me, do it through your parents, if ya can't convince them, you certainly won't convice me. And as far as the government is concerned, untill your 18 and as long as your not commiting crimes, you don't have a name, your not even a real human, your just a number, your just listed as minor(s) in household on the census.

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Post 14 \| New	Posted June 19th, 2003
paul Flaming Squirrel Joined: Feb '03 Posts: 486 Type: Administrator	Maybe $500 is tough but it's the law. Why bother having age ratings for games if they aren't enforceable? It's a law, you break it you get punished. If not you might as well start selling VC to anyone who wanted to buy it. ------------------ Grrrrr

Post 15 \| New	Posted June 20th, 2003
JJHW Joined: Feb '03 Posts: 1,058	It doesn't matter anyway, I just get my parents to buy 18s for me... All the games shops think I've 15 anyway... ------------------ Long live the first 20 members! - I'm number 15 duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhuhuuuhuhuhuhuhhhuuh

Post 16 \| New	Posted June 21st, 2003
scully designated drinker Joined: Feb '03 Posts: -57	Like the shops actually check for ID. I was buying porn at 14. When I turned the legal age to purchase alcohol, No one ever asked how old I am. So, is a video game store really going to not sell you a $50 game because of your age? The store is just trying to make a profit. If anything it's the goverment that is trying to collect in on it. Think about it. There are games more violent than ViceCity. And GTA III and ViceCity are both top selling games. The politics are just trying to get more money from them. The stores can buy games at around $10-$15 apiece in bulk, then sell them at $40-$50. So as long as they are able to sell everything they have in stock, they make a profit. But the Governments are funded by taxes ( % on the dollar) So either the Government can collect around $4 in taxes per game on a top selling video game, or collect a few hundred dollars in fines everytime a minor buys it. ------------------ Gone to the roof

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Posted June 21st, 2003

scully
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Joined: Feb '03
Posts: -57

Like the shops actually check for ID. I was buying porn at 14. When I turned the legal age to purchase alcohol, No one ever asked how old I am.

So, is a video game store really going to not sell you a $50 game because of your age? The store is just trying to make a profit. If anything it's the goverment that is trying to collect in on it.

Think about it. There are games more violent than ViceCity. And GTA III and ViceCity are both top selling games. The politics are just trying to get more money from them.

The stores can buy games at around $10-$15 apiece in bulk, then sell them at $40-$50. So as long as they are able to sell everything they have in stock, they make a profit. But the Governments are funded by taxes ( % on the dollar)

So either the Government can collect around $4 in taxes per game on a top selling video game, or collect a few hundred dollars in fines everytime a minor buys it.

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Post 17 \| New	Posted June 21st, 2003
RunYaSneakers does this thing work? Joined: May '03 Posts: 401	I live in RI and right next door in mass where I buy most of my games that law is enforced. It sucks but thats why I drag along my mommy... :Y ------------------

Post 18 \| New	Posted June 25th, 2003
Deleted Member	it's pretty stupid too.Last night I saw something about anti street racing because someone died on the news and they showed a clip in Vice City of some dude playing it the clip was of him in like an Admiral he stopped in the road,Got out and walked over to a Banshee,And then the clip ended.Someone tell me what that has to do with Street Racing?

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